<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I thought the <exclusions> would remove the api from classpath..<div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>On Aug 12, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Chris Pratt wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">If the API exists, programmers can use it, regardless of the jar file name that contains it. So whether it's commons-logging.jar of jcl-over-slf4j.jar the API is available for 3rd party libraries (like Spring) AND your programmers, and (as far as I'm aware) there's nothing Maven can do about that fact. Same for Log4j, since the log4j.jar file has to be there for slf4j-log4j12.jar to work, your programmers can use it as well.<div>
<br></div><div>You might be able to write some awk scripts that scan your code for instantiations of the Loggers from those packages and warns you if someone uses them. You might even be able to get maven to run it during the build process. But other than that, I don't know what to tell you.</div>
<div> (*Chris*)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Douglas Ferguson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thedug@gmail.com">thedug@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">So does that mean that:<div><br></div><div>1) mvn dependency tree is lying to me?</div><div>2) If I remove the jcl-over-slf4j.jar that 3rd party libraries, like spring that use commons logging will still be able to log at runtime? Maybe I need to mark it runtime so it is included in the war but not compiled against?</div>
<div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">Douglas</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 12, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Chris Pratt wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">My guess is you're not seeing the actual inclusion of the commons-logging.jar, but the API's included in that jar. Those API's are replicated by the jcl-over-slf4j.jar file but use the SLF4j API under the covers. If you want to make sure people can't write to that API, remove that jar file.<div>
(*Chris*)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Douglas Ferguson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thedug@gmail.com" target="_blank">thedug@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I'm migrating a spring project from a hybrid of log4j and commons logging. I'd like to make sure that developer don't inadvertently use commons-logging or log4j directly</div>
<div><br></div><div>I ran the migrator. It worked great</div><div><br></div><div>I added exclusions to my pom, <font color="#f60000">but eclipse still finds the commons-logging jar</font> and when a run maven dependency:tree it still shows up:</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>[INFO] +- org.springframework.ws:spring-ws-core:jar:2.0.0.RELEASE:compile</div><div>[INFO] | +- wsdl4j:wsdl4j:jar:1.6.1:compile</div><div>[INFO] | \- commons-logging:commons-logging:jar:1.1.1:compile</div>
</div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><dependency></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><groupId><a href="http://org.springframework.ws/" target="_blank">org.springframework.ws</a></groupId></div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><artifactId>spring-ws-core</artifactId></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><version>${spring-ws-version}</version></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><type>jar</type></div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><scope>compile</scope></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><exclusions></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><exclusion></div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><groupId>commons-logging</groupId></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><artifactId>commons-logging</artifactId></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></exclusion></div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></exclusions><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></dependency></div></div><div><br></div><div>
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</div><div><br></div><div>I also added this so that any dependencies that are using commons-logging will be ok</div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)">
<span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>dependency<span style="color:#009494">></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)">
<span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> </span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>groupId<span style="color:#009494">></span><span style="color:#000000">org.slf4j</span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>groupId<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> </span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>artifactId<span style="color:#009494">></span><span style="color:#000000">jcl-over-slf4j</span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>artifactId<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> </span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>version<span style="color:#009494">></span><span style="color:#000000">1.6.1</span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>version<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>dependency<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
</div><div><br></div><div>Here's my other logging dependencies</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(77, 110, 205)">
<span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><!-- slf4j --></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>dependency<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline"><groupId>org.slf4j</groupId></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">
<span style="text-decoration:underline"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><artifactId>slf4j-api</artifactId></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">
<span style="text-decoration:underline"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><version>1.6.1</version></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)">
<span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>type<span style="color:#009494">></span><span style="color:#000000">jar</span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>type<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><span style="color:#009494"><</span><span style="color:#339393">scope</span><span style="color:#009494">></span>compile<span style="color:#009494"></</span><span style="color:#339393">scope</span><span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>dependency<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>dependency<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>groupId<span style="color:#009494">></span><span style="color:#000000">org.slf4j</span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>groupId<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>artifactId<span style="color:#009494">></span><span style="color:#000000">slf4j-log4j12</span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>artifactId<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>version<span style="color:#009494">></span><span style="color:#000000">1.6.1</span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>version<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"><</span>type<span style="color:#009494">></span><span style="color:#000000">jar</span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>type<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><span style="color:#009494"><</span><span style="color:#339393">scope</span><span style="color:#009494">></span>compile<span style="color:#009494"></</span><span style="color:#339393">scope</span><span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;color:rgb(51, 147, 147)"><span style="color:#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></span><span style="color:#009494"></</span>dependency<span style="color:#009494">></span></div>
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