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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’m puzzled that you would even think of fixing it this way when the right thing to do is just to make sure your production environment is configured properly and that it will always find a config file… How is it that you don’t have complete control over your production environment configuration? Am I missing something?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> logback-user-bounces@qos.ch [mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leonid Ilyevsky<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 28, 2011 8:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'logback-user@qos.ch'<br><b>Subject:</b> [logback-user] Why DEBUG by default?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>When logback cannot find configuration file anywhere, it sets the default to send everything to standard output and the level is set to DEBUG. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This creates a big problem in our production environment: super-verbose log that is even difficult to look at. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My solution was to create a small wrapper using JoranConfigurator. This works great, and I can do whatever I need. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>However, here is the downside: my code is no longer ignorant of logback. Previously it was purely slf4j everywhere, but now every class is indirectly dependent on logback stuff (though it is limited to 2 lines in every java file). This defeats the purpose of slf4j as pure facade. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Is there any better solution? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Our problem is, we need to guarantee that no matter what happens in the logging layer, it should never go wild and produce all that debugging noise.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>This email, along with any attachments, is confidential and may be legally privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. Any unauthorized dissemination, copying or use of the contents of this email is strictly prohibited and may be in violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, forwarding or distribution of this email is strictly prohibited and this email and any attachments should be deleted immediately. This email and any attachments do not constitute an offer to sell or a solicitation of an offer to purchase any interest in any investment vehicle sponsored by Moon Capital Management LP (“Moon Capital”). Moon Capital does not provide legal, accounting or tax advice. Any statement regarding legal, accounting or tax matters was not intended or written to be relied upon by any person as advice. Moon Capital does not waive confidentiality or privilege as a result of this email.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>