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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I may be right? Just look at the Logback home page and see
a few projects using it, e.g. SpringSource’s dm Server.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You place too much value in a marketing thing – a release
number!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You are also confusing authors of work – I am a fan and
user of SLF4J and Logback. All credit goes to Ceki and associates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For stability concerns, you should review the Logback history
with its genesis from Log4j. You do know Ceki, the Logback founder, is
also the founder of Log4j?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>‘nuff said…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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logback-user-bounces@qos.ch [mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Ari Meyer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> logback users list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [logback-user] 1.0 release date?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Jeff,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>You may be right about that (though I haven't seen it pulled
down as a dependency for my Maven builds, yet...), but large organizations
often don't see things the way you and I do. They won't ditch an
acceptable, stable log4j for what *appears* to be a beta. After over 4
years of active development, though, it seems reasonable to expect multiple
full releases of something as relatively small in scope as a logging
framework. The fact that we don't see a 1.0 yet perhaps indicates
over-perfectionism. This often happens with other OSS projects (JDOM
being a notable case of this, as I remember). For our sake, please just
get to a reasonably stable build and label it "1.0". We'll
expect bug fixes and minor API changes, of course, as that's natural, and new
features can be released incrementally.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Are there some must-have features that have yet to be
implemented? It would be nice if the FAQ were updated for this, along
with a high-level road map.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for all for the hard work!<br>
Ari<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Jeff Jensen <<a
href="mailto:jjensen@apache.org">jjensen@apache.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Just because the release number begins with a value < 1
doesn't mean it is<br>
in beta. Lots and lots of products around the world use SLF4J and Logback<br>
in production operations, and I bet including some of the FOS frameworks you<br>
are using!<o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch">logback-user-bounces@qos.ch</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch">logback-user-bounces@qos.ch</a>]
On<br>
Behalf Of Ari Meyer<br>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:09 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:logback-user@qos.ch">logback-user@qos.ch</a><br>
Subject: [logback-user] 1.0 release date?<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
We'd like to switch from log4j to logback, but can't use beta releases.<br>
logback has been in development for over 4 years now -- any idea when<br>
we'll see a 1.0 release?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Ari<o:p></o:p></p>
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